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標題 [情報] 我川開放聆聽報價及關稅公式可能的來源
時間 Fri Apr  4 08:06:16 2025

在華爾街沒事的大跌後

白宮發布了我川輕鬆愉快的照片

要大家相信川普總統的運籌帷幄



川普的首席貿易顧問在CNBC堅稱新關稅政策不是
美國作為與其他國家談判更佳貿易條款的工具。

Top Trump trade advisor Peter Navarro denied that Trump's new tariffs are being
used as a tool to negotiate better trade terms with other countries.

"This is not a negotiation," Navarro said on CNBC's "Closing Bell: Overtime."

"This is not that. This is a national emergency," he said.

— Kevin Breuninger




我川沒有按照白宮助理的堅持態度

在空軍一號上改口開放談判態度

After multiple White House aides insisted that the new tariffs were not a negoti
ation, Trump said he would be open to negotiating with other countries about the
 duties.

Trump said he would be open to tariff talks with other counties if they offer so
mething phenomenal, Reuters reported him saying on Air Force One.

Top trade aide Peter Navarro told CNBC less than an hour earlier that the sweepi
ng tariffs are "not a negotiation."

— Kevin Breuninger

https://reurl.cc/AMOXgp




*其他報導指出川普在宣布關稅後外出打高爾夫球，並且對股市暴跌並不感到擔憂。

*在川普搭機前往佛州的路上，其他報載也提到川普做出開放聆聽其他國家報價的評論

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另外，根據The Verge

川普讓經濟學者疑惑的新關稅公式有「可能」來自於人工智能的聊天機器人

Trump’s new tariff math looks a lot like ChatGPT’sChatGPT, Gemini, Grok, and C
laude all recommend the same “nonsense” tariff calculation.

其中一段

Where did these numbers come from? Apparently, an oversimplified calculation tha
t several major AI chatbots happen to recommend.

Economist James Surowiecki quickly reverse-engineered a possible explanation for
 the tariff pricing. He found you could recreate each of the White House’s numb
ers by simply taking a given country’s trade deficit with the US and dividing i
t by their total exports to the US. Halve that number, and you get a ready-to-us
e “discounted reciprocal tariff.” The White House objected to this claim and p
ublished the formula it says that it used, but as Politico points out, the formu
la looks like a dressed-up version of Surowiecki’s method.

In case you weren’t sure, Surowiecki calls this approach “extraordinary nonsen
se.” So why did Trump’s team use it? Well, like plenty of people who’ve reali
zed their homework is due in three hours’ time, it seems like they may have bee
n tempted by AI.


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A number of X users have realized that if you ask ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, or Gr
ok for an “easy” way to solve trade deficits and put the US on “an even playi
ng field”, they’ll give you a version of this “deficit divided by exports” f
ormula with remarkable consistency. The Verge tested this with the phrasing used
 in those posts, as well as a question based more closely on the government’s l
anguage, asking chatbots for “an easy way for the US to calculate tariffs that
should be imposed on other countries to balance bilateral trade deficits between
 the US and each of its trading partners, with the goal of driving bilateral tra
de deficits to zero.” All four platforms gave us the same fundamental suggestio
n.

如果向ChatGPT、Gemini、Claude 或 Grok 詢問解決美國貿易逆差的“簡單”方法，使美國
處於“公平的競爭環境”，會得到一致「逆差除以出口」的公式。

The bots caution with varying levels of seriousness that there are tradeoffs and
 complications. Gemini, the most strident of them, will give you a page full of
explanations as to why this oversimplified approach could backfire — “while th
is calculation offers a seemingly straightforward way to target bilateral trade
deficits, the real-world economic implications are far more complex and could le
ad to substantial negative consequences,” it warns, adding that “many economis
ts argue that tariffs are not an effective tool for balancing trade deficits.”

但是這些機器人也有解釋若以這樣簡單的結論來解決雙邊貿易逆差，會得到適得其反的結果

來源：

https://reurl.cc/LaMe0x
Trump’s new tariff math looks a lot like ChatGPT’s | The Verge
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ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok, and Claude all recommend the same, simple tariff calculation that the White House appears to have used. ...

 




根據金融時報

我川可能很快會對晶片及藥品下手

https://reurl.cc/XAVxlD
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Wall Street’s blue-chip companies including Apple tumble as investors rush for safety of government bonds ...

 

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