作者 pujos (lks)標題 Re: [外絮] Devin Booker:天賦打球終究有其上限時間 Sun Mar 23 00:50:36 2025
讓我們粗暴一點直接看on/off
書人
on:-1.0
off:-0.3
on-off:-0.7
KD
on:+0.2
off:-2.5
on-off:+2.7
Beal
on:-7.4
off:+4.5
on-off: “-11.9”
下面都是每百回合數據
這三人組合
這一季一共打了666分鐘
得分輸對手3.8分
再來看雙人組合
Beal+KD=>1040分鐘,“-8.1”
Beal+書人=>1012分鐘,“-7.7”
KD+書人=>1438分鐘,+1.8
這五千萬
不唬爛,真的驚天動地
拿Beal想敲油頭
光有油頭裸照我看籌碼還差的遠
我實在想像不出來
即使沒那個NTC
這要賣要怎麼貼
我看啊
高機率還要貼上KD買一送一
才有人願意回收
※ 引述《LABOYS (洛城浪子)》之銘言:
: https://reurl.cc/AMg6yj
: 'Talent only gets you so far': Devin Booker opens up on 'very frustrating'
: season for Suns
: https://i.imgur.com/DHDg62J.png
: Devin Booker is in quite a quandary.
: His Phoenix Suns are imploding. After entering the season with championship
: expectations, they're in 10th place in the West and are fighting to make the
: play-in tournament. They stunned Kevin Durant by trying to trade him in
: February before he kiboshed a deal that would've sent him to Golden State.
: Bradley Beal was involved in multiple trade rumors despite his no-trade clause
: . There are whispers that coach Mike Budenholzer's future with the team could
: be shaky.
: Devin Booker 陷入了兩難境地。
: 他的鳳凰城太陽隊正在瀕臨崩潰。
: 本賽季開始時,球隊背負著爭奪總冠軍的期待,
: 但現在卻排名西區第十,苦苦掙扎爭取附加賽資格。
: 二月時,球隊試圖交易 Kevin Durant,
: 這讓他大感震驚,最終 KD 親自喊停了可能將他送往金州勇士的交易。
: Bradley Beal 則多次捲入交易傳聞,儘管他擁有不可交易條款。
: 此外,外界也傳出球隊總教練 Mike Budenholzer 的未來可能不太穩固的風聲。
: The Suns are clearly on the verge of seismic change this offseason, with all
: three of their stars on maximum contracts and not enough to show for it.
: So, the big question is what does this mean for Booker, a 28-year-old who
: recently signed a four-year, $224 million supermax extension with the Suns
: through the 2027-28 season?
: When asked if he believes he could be traded too, he pointed to the fact that
: no one is safe, something that was driven home to everyone in the NBA when the
: Dallas Mavericks sent Luka Doncic – a 26-year-old who is considered a top-
: three player in the league – to the Los Angeles Lakers in February.
: 太陽隊在這個休賽季顯然即將迎來劇變,
: 三位球星擁有頂薪合約,但球隊的表現卻未能達到預期。
: 那麼,問題來了:
: 這對 Booker 意味著什麼?
: 這位 28 歲的球星剛與太陽隊簽下了一份四年 2.24 億美元的超級頂薪續約合同,
: 將效力至 2027-28 賽季。
: 當被問到自己是否可能被交易時,Booker 提到了 NBA 的一個現實——
: 沒有人是絕對安全的。這一點在今年二月獨行俠將 26 歲、
: 被公認為聯盟前三球員的 Luka Doncic 交易至洛杉磯湖人時,
: 已經深刻地烙印在所有球員心中。
: "Look at the situation that got Luka here," Booker told FOX Sports. "I
: understand that it's a business. I've been around a long time. The Luka one is
: probably the craziest trade we've seen. But the game just keeps going."
: Suns owner Mat Ishbia recently told ESPN that trading Booker this offseason
: would "never happen," adding, "I have Devin Booker in the prime. In order to
: win an NBA championship, you got to have a superstar." Booker also apparently
: isn't interested in being traded.
: 「看看 Luka 是怎麼轉隊的,」Booker 對《FOX Sports》表示。
: 「我明白這就是一門生意,我在這個聯盟待了很久。
: Luka 的交易可能是我們見過最瘋狂的交易之一,但比賽仍會繼續下去。」
: 太陽隊老闆 Mat Ishbia 最近在接受 ESPN 採訪時強調,
: 休賽季交易 Booker「絕對不會發生」,並補充道:
: 「Devin Booker 正處於巔峰。想要贏得 NBA 總冠軍,你必須擁有超級球星。」
: 此外,Booker 本人似乎也無意被交易。
: But it's clear that frustrations are mounting for Booker, whose Suns reached
: the NBA Finals in 2021 but haven't made it past the second round of the
: playoffs since.
: During a recent trip to Los Angeles, Booker couldn't help but feel crushed by
: how much things have changed since around this time four years ago, when he
: was standing in front of the same locker, celebrating having just beaten the
: LA Clippers in the Western Conference finals.
: He remembers the scene vividly.
: 但很明顯,Booker 的挫折感正在累積。
: 太陽隊在 2021 年闖入 NBA 總冠軍賽,但自那以後,他們再也沒能突破季後賽第二輪。
: 最近一次造訪洛杉磯時,Booker 不禁感到心碎,因為一切變化太大了。
: 大約四年前的這個時候,他還站在同一個更衣室前,
: 慶祝剛剛擊敗洛杉磯快艇,挺進總冠軍賽。
: 他仍然清楚地記得當時的場景。
: He and his teammates poured water over Chris Paul's head. Deandre Ayton, lying
: on the carpet, cuddled the conference finals trophy and asked, "Why she play
: so hard to get?" Booker beamed, hopeful he was going to win his first
: championship in his first postseason appearance.
: Fast-forward to last March 16, when Booker was in the same place, but worlds
: apart.
: 他和隊友們把水撒向 Chris Paul 的頭歡慶勝利。
: Deandre Ayton 躺在地毯上,抱著西區冠軍獎盃,開玩笑地問:「她怎麼這麼難追?」
: Booker 滿臉笑容,充滿希望,認為自己能在生涯首次季後賽之旅中奪得總冠軍。
: 時光快轉至今年 3 月 16 日,
: Booker 站在同樣的地方,卻感覺像是處在完全不同的世界。
: After losing to the LeBron James-less Lakers, he was surrounded by a
: semicircle of reporters asking him different iterations of the same question:
: How can the Suns be so bad despite having so much talent? Durant left the
: locker room before speaking to reporters. The mood was dismal, as the Suns'
: slide continued following the month of February, when they went 3-10.
: Booker didn't sugarcoat how the juxtaposition felt.
: "Very frustrating," Booker told FOX Sports. "We celebrated the Western
: Conference finals right here. I was standing in the same spot."
: 在輸給沒有 LeBron James 的湖人後,
: Booker 被一群記者包圍,一群人不斷用不同的措辭問著同一個問題:
: 太陽隊明明擁有這麼多天賦,為什麼表現還這麼糟?
: Durant 在記者會開始前就離開了更衣室,氣氛低沉,
: 而太陽隊在二月份打出 3 勝 10 負的戰績後,狀況依舊持續下滑。
: Booker 並沒有掩飾這種強烈的對比帶來的感受。
: 「非常令人沮喪,」他對《FOX Sports》說道。
: 「我們當時就在這裡慶祝晉級總冠軍賽,就是我現在站的,同一個地方。」
: It's confounding that the Suns are in this position considering they have a
: coach with championship experience in Budenholzer, a two-time champion and two
: -time Finals MVP in Durant and seven All-Star appearances between Booker (four
: ) and Beal (three).
: So, seriously, what's the problem?
: "Talent only gets you so far," Booker told FOX Sports. "I've been on teams
: with less talent that found ways to get more wins. It's just the little things
: . What people always say, the details of the game. Although it sounds like we
: should know that at this part of our careers, it's just something you need to
: form and develop and learn through trial and error.
: 考慮到太陽隊擁有一位具備冠軍總教頭 Budenholzer,
: 一位兩屆總冠軍、兩屆FMVP 的KD,以及Booker(四次)與Beal(三次),
: 兩人合計七次入選全明星,這樣的陣容,他們如今陷入這種困境實在令人費解。
: 那麼,問題到底出在哪裡?
: 「憑藉天賦打球終究有其極限,」Booker 對《FOX Sports》表示。
: 「我待過一些天賦較差的球隊,但我們總能找到贏球的方法。關鍵就在那些細節——
: 大家常說的比賽細節。雖然聽起來我們這個階段應該已經掌握了這些東西,
: 但這仍然需要透過不斷磨合、發展,並從試錯中學習。」
: Budenholzer chalked up the Suns' issues to effort, saying, "We need a little
: bit more from everybody." He included himself in that category, too, following
: a game in which Durant chirped at him shortly after they exchanged words
: during a game earlier this month. Durant — who made his 15th All-Star
: appearance in February, and is averaging 26.4 points on 52.6% shooting,
: including 41.6% from beyond the arc, alongside 6.1 rebounds and 4.3 assists —
: pointed to the first incident as evidence of how much they both care about
: trying to right the ship.
: Budenholzer 將太陽隊的問題歸咎於不夠努力,並表示:「我們需要每個人付出更多。」
: 在這場比賽後,他也將自己納入其中,因為在本月初的一場比賽中,
: KD 在他們交換言辭後對他發出了些許不滿的反應。
: KD——在二月迎來了自己的第15次全明星賽出場,
: 場均貢獻 26.4 分、52.6% 的投籃命中率(包括 41.6% 三分球命中率),
: 加上 6.1 個籃板和 4.3 次助攻——
: 將這次事件視為他們兩人都非常關心,並努力挽回頹勢的一個證據。
: The Suns have now won two games in a row, beating Toronto on Monday and
: Chicago on Wednesday. But they have a tough stretch ahead, including facing
: some of the top teams in the East in their next three games, in top-seeded
: Cleveland, second-seeded Boston and fifth-seeded Milwaukee.
: For Booker, his time with the Suns has been a rollercoaster. He saw them go
: from not even making the playoffs in his first six seasons to reaching the
: Finals in 2021. Then, Ishbia turned the team on its head to acquire Durant
: followed by Beal. Last season's shortcomings could be chalked up to injuries.
: But this season, the Suns are out of excuses.
: 太陽隊最近取得了兩連勝,分別擊敗了多倫多和芝加哥。
: 然而,他們接下來的賽程非常艱難,
: 包括在接下來的三場比賽中將面對東區的頂尖球隊——
: 排名第一的克里夫蘭、第二的波士頓和第五的密爾瓦基。
: 對 Booker 而言,他在太陽隊的歷程就像是一趟雲霄飛車。
: 他見證了球隊從他前六個賽季無緣季後賽,到 2021 年成功晉級總冠軍賽。
: 隨後,Ishbia 對球隊進行了徹底的改組,引進了 KD 和 Beal。
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Re: [外絮] Devin Booker:天賦打球終究有其上限
03-23 00:50 pujos
※ 編輯: pujos (118.171.227.72 臺灣), 03/23/2025 00:55:52
噓 goury: 看粗暴的爛數字要幹嘛?建議下次看棒球粗暴的打點1F 03/23 00:53
噓 WIGGINS22: 我大哥太苦了…36歲還受過大傷還要帶一群小貓打球2F 03/23 00:54
推 Tommy92C: 太陽自己拆掉CP3跟Ayton,陣容由一片光明變黑暗3F 03/23 00:56
→ Tommy92C: 還有大橋鐵人拿來換KD,結果攻防要KD+全扛5F 03/23 00:56
→ pujos: 坦克神器,不過綁的年份稍微多了一點6F 03/23 00:57
→ AlohaVC: Beal有這麼差嗎 難道這類型的球員不能當核心?7F 03/23 00:57
→ BronyXrG: 書人今年數據一坨表現還比霸王好噢8F 03/23 00:57
→ stocktonty: 不過這好像當初是KD指定要的? 結果換走了保羅9F 03/23 00:57
→ Nuey: 不管啦 數據冷冰冰10F 03/23 00:58
推 wayne1986: Beal看投射效率也不差阿...而且也很願意防守,怎麼上場效率差成這樣11F 03/23 00:58
→ stocktonty: 頓寶當初鬧僵到沒辦法留了吧?簡而言之選亞軍未必好KD KT都以為亞軍好像離冠軍比較近才上車 事實上不然13F 03/23 00:59
→ pujos: 加今年還有三年,兄弟保重,季末KD、書人走一個的話,下一季穩的15F 03/23 01:04
推 YellowTiger: 但比爾就是跟其他兩位打法不合
比爾在 太陽21-27 不在 13-10 三巨頭都在 19-18
比爾不在 KD書人在 12-3 就明明數據還可以
但1+1+1就長這樣 而且另外的1+1大於317F 03/23 01:23
噓 Loso1117: 太陽自己的鍋吧,有Ayton跟相機不用跑去換拓荒者那一包21F 03/23 01:26
推 andy055097: Beal不在雙星在太陽11-3
會列這些數字也是給不看球 堅持比爾沒很爛的人看26F 03/23 01:34
推 LanewGo: 看來直接棄用五千萬就能進季後賽
五千萬實質傷害球隊繼續打 JB被說傷害球隊就被禁賽28F 03/23 01:36
→ AlohaVC: Beal應該還比Lavine好吧 好奇這兩個得分能力那麼好的AS 為什麼都沒辦法帶領球隊成為爭冠強隊 最後反而都變成難找下家的燙手山芋呢30F 03/23 01:43
→ Despairile: 有點好奇Beal去哪隊會合適 目前看討論偏向太陽位置因為重疊所以Beal對太陽的效率是負的34F 03/23 01:54
推 richard1003: 你看歷史奪冠那幾個SG哪個是純得分手?都嘛攻防組織全包36F 03/23 01:55
推 knight714: 去坦隊當刷子最適合吧
又能坦又能刷數據
lavine今年進攻效率比Beal好很多 雖然防守一樣爛38F 03/23 01:55
推 idontsuck: 就算沒有Beal,太陽依然爆薪資卡限制無法補強,多數人只是拿Beal來領繩替死鬼,事實上是教練戰術呆板,GM交易手段低劣,補人也只補矮子41F 03/23 01:59
推 idontsuck: 球迷怪beal ,再整天幻想Ayton 、相機也無處於是46F 03/23 02:02
→ pujos: 有沒有看過這麼慘烈的組合,所有雙人、三人組合,只要組到Beal全負,沒百回合要輸7分多
再一支非墊底隊看到這種狀況,每...這真的屌爆了47F 03/23 02:02
→ zz8826319: 比爾就是太貴 他的身價只值2500-3000美 跟英雄差不50F 03/23 02:03
→ pujos: *每51F 03/23 02:03
→ pujos: 除了拿去坦克用,我想不到其他用途,怎麼能這麼慘53F 03/23 02:05
→ AlohaVC: 火箭的陣容適合Beal嗎 不控球專注得分 可以解決火箭貧攻問題?54F 03/23 02:06
→ AlohaVC: Green如果能解決火箭貧攻問題當然就不需要Beal啦58F 03/23 02:13
→ richard1003: 人家火箭有一堆資源可以解決這問題,決不是去換個50M爛約59F 03/23 02:26
→ AlohaVC: 所以是價格問題不是能力問題 如果便宜個15M Beal應該還會算搶手 了解61F 03/23 02:29
推 k7626773: Beal的問題永遠都是咖位跟薪水。他要是3000萬然後任勞任怨其實都好說。64F 03/23 02:36
→ pujos: 少15M你怎麼判斷會搶手的,他BPM負的,對標的板凳第8、9、10
你們家這麼有錢,球隊第八人花35M簽....66F 03/23 02:39
→ AlohaVC: Beal簽約時好歹也是全明星級聯盟前幾的SG吧 不然他跟Lavine的合理價位應該落在哪 不高於30M?69F 03/23 02:46
→ pujos: LV這季比他好多了,他成績是自己打爛掉的,要怪誰71F 03/23 02:47
推 illumi: Lavine這季的薪水感覺沒那麼重了,大概只剩28%,以今年來說算還行吧72F 03/23 02:59
→ xo1100: 3000萬這種健康度也是嫌到歪掉啦74F 03/23 03:03
推 lovetina: 好恐怖的數據~~~~(驚!76F 03/23 04:11
推 fegat: 巫師就專門給肥約留人的球隊 Wall那張也是肥到爆
差在Wall大傷直接沒人要 beal還騙到有人撿77F 03/23 04:15
推 ooplus: 雖然沒很喜歡LV但他跟比爾比我一定選LV79F 03/23 05:44
推 GT47: 比爾跟龜龜就是兩把大刷子,只是龜龜不像比爾有先簽到大約再被交易80F 03/23 05:54
噓 yugowolf: Beal:想交易還得我同意呢 你是不是搞錯了什麼小朋友83F 03/23 07:47
→ onionandy: onoff一直都只是參考 不能只拿這個數據84F 03/23 08:19
→ Puye: 有時候就是衝動交易 比爾爛在她5000萬又有霸王
真的不合想再換 困難重重86F 03/23 08:34
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