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※ 本文轉寄自 ptt.cc 更新時間: 2022-07-26 13:08:06
看板 NBA
作者 azlbf (上邪!我欲與君相知)
標題 [外絮] ESPN排近年15大交易
時間 Tue Jul 26 09:31:27 2022


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/3...how-inform-kevin-durant-future
Ranking some of biggest trades of the past two decades -- and how they might inform Kevin Durant's future
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This offseason has been defined by superstar moves. Here's what some of the biggest trades of the past 20 years reveal about the teams sending away th ...

 

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過去20年間，替重大交易排名- 並且說明這些對KD交易的影響

Throughout every iteration of the NBA, some of its best and most iconic players -- from Wilt Chamberlain to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to Shaquille O'Neal -- have been traded during their pro careers.
Soon, the Brooklyn Nets' Kevin Durant could become the latest all-time-great player on that list.

As the basketball world waits to see what deal could come together for the future Hall of Fame forward, we took a look at some of the biggest names to be dealt over the past 20 years and evaluated how these deals look now.
With Kevin Pelton and ESPN Stats & Information's Matt Williams, we ranked 15 such deals individually, based on how much value the team trading away its superstar received in return, with the results then being averaged out to create the final list.

NBA每一個世代都有一些頂尖球員被交易，從張大帥、賈霸到俠客，他們都曾被交易過

很快的，籃網的KD會成為名單上偉大球員中最新的一位。

Kevin Pelton and ESPN Stats & Information's Matt Williams等人一起排出20年最具代表的15大交易案

Here's what stood out:
Leverage is huge -- and can lead to massive returns: Getting Paul George, for example, allowed the LA Clippers in 2019 to then also pick up Kawhi Leonard -- leading the Oklahoma City Thunder to get a massive haul in return for sending him to Los Angeles.
Picks matter more now than ever before: The structure of these deals has changed significantly. In the mid-2000s, when Tracy McGrady and Shaquille O'Neal were traded, the deals were built around players -- Steve Francis in the McGrady deal, and Lamar Odom in the O'Neal trade. Over time, however -- and especially over the past decade -- the returns became much more pick-heavy, as teams now seek more future draft assets over present-day talent.
Let's look at 15 of the biggest superstar trades in recent NBA history:

這是有些連帶深遠影響的

像快艇得到PG後也讓他們後續得到可愛，而雷霆也收穫了滿手簽

像T-MAC交易的主菜是SF3

而俠客的交易則影響著Lamar Odom

接下來讓我們看看近年的15大交易


15 . 金塊得到AI -2006

金塊得到AI

76人得到Andre Miller, Joe Smith還有2個2007首輪（另一個來自小牛）

With Iverson nearing the end of his prime and Philadelphia on its way to missing the playoffs for a second straight season, the 76ers moved The Answer to the Denver Nuggets, who hoped pairing Iverson with budding star Carmelo Anthony would lead them to the Finals for the first time.
Philadelphia, on the other hand, was finally hitting the reset button. The Sixers had made the Finals five years prior but had plateaued, averaging 41 wins in the years since. In trading away their franchise icon, they began to rebuild around then-23-year-old wing Andre Iguodala.
Ultimately, though, this return -- a solid starting point guard in Miller and a couple of late first-round picks -- fueled years of mediocrity. Outside of one fluky trip to the second round in 2012, when Derrick Rose tore his left ACL and the top-seeded Chicago Bulls lost in the first round to the eighth-seeded 76ers, it would still be another six years, when GM Sam Hinkie took over in 2013, until this franchise would -- finally -- bottom out

隨著AI的生涯巔峰進入尾聲，76人連續2年沒季後賽可以打。他們把AI送去金塊與甜瓜聯手 ，並圍繞著當時23歲的明星前鋒小AI打造球隊。

金塊得到AI之後期許可以首度打入西絕 ，但實際上2年都止步首輪

而76人也因為得到Miller在季後賽邊緣徘徊

補充：諷刺的是，金塊在交易AI去活塞並得到槍西之後

巔峰瓜跟槍西首次帶領球隊殺入西絕



14. 2018，暴龍得到可愛

Toronto receives: Kawhi Leonard and Danny Green
San Antonio receives: DeMar DeRozan, Jakob Poeltl and a top-20-protected 2019 first-round pick

暴龍得到可愛跟聖堂

馬刺得到DDR、Poeltl還有前20保護的首輪

After Leonard blossomed into a star, he seemed like the bridge to the next generation of non stop success for the San Antonio Spurs. Instead, the two sides had a falling out over Leonard's injury status. After playing nine games in the 2017-18 season, he was traded that offseason.
Leonard went on to lead the Raptors to an NBA title in his first and only season in Toronto, before going to the LA Clippers. And while DeRozan became a much better playmaker with the Spurs than he was in Toronto, and helped San Antonio win 48 games in his first season, the Spurs slowly descended in the standings and have shifted into a full-on rebuild.

這位原應該是馬刺新生代的頭臉人物，因為傷病問題與球隊起了爭執，並最終在只出賽9場後被交易

KL到暴龍後奪下隊史第一也是唯一一座冠軍

而DDR到了馬刺雖然變成更好的持球者，但球隊的競爭力卻一直下滑

13. Chris Paul to LA Clippers in 2011
在有名的basketball reason後，CP3去了快艇

LA Clippers receive: Chris Paul and a 2015 second-round pick
New Orleans receives: Al-Farouq Aminu, Chris Kaman, Eric Gordon and Minnesota's 2012 first-round pick

快艇得到CP3 和2015次輪

黃蜂得到QQ 3人組 還有灰狼的首輪

This trade is memorable because of a different Chris Paul trade, to the Los Angeles Lakers, that was vetoed by then-commissioner David Stern for "basketball reasons." Several days later, the deal with the Clippers was consummated.
The deal allowed New Orleans to shift into a full rebuild -- one centered around Gordon, who at the time looked like a potential All-Star after averaging 22 points a game in his third NBA season, and a potentially juicy pick from the Timberwolves, who had won just 17 games the year before. But injuries derailed Gordon's tenure in New Orleans, as he missed more games than he played in his five years with the franchise, while that Minnesota pick became Austin Rivers, who quickly washed out with the
Pelicans, as well.

黃蜂試圖圍繞著Gordon重建，一開始也像是有這麼一回事

值得他開始瘋狂受傷-養傷-復出又受傷

這些年他傷停的時間比出賽時間還多。而那隻首輪則變成小河流，並被揮棄

12. Tracy McGrady to Houston in 2004

火箭得到T-MAC 與Reece還有Juwan 跟Lue

魔術得到SF3 、Mobley還有Cato

Houston receives: Tracy McGrady, Reece Gaines, Juwan Howard and Tyronn Lue
Orlando receives: Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley and Kelvin Cato



Coming off two straight seasons in which McGrady led the NBA in scoring, he was sent to Houston in a six-player deal headlined by All-Star guard Steve Francis going the other way.
At the time, Francis was coming off three straight All-Star seasons in Houston. But after one strong season in Orlando, he quickly faded as an elite player and wound up being traded to the New York Knicks in a move that cleared salary-cap space for the Magic to acquire Rashard Lewis -- who became a key part of Orlando's 2009 NBA Finals team -- that offseason.


2屆得分王被送去火箭，而魔術得到3屆全明星SF3

後續影響：

SF3只在魔術打出一年漂亮的成績就迅速衰退，最後被交易去尼克。

而魔術除了得到Ariza還清出了薪資空間用來簽下2000萬 AKA Rashard Lewis

（補充 其實2000萬是巫師時期 但在魔術時仍是全隊最高薪 ，總額是6年1.15E ）

他是魔術打進當年總冠的重要成員

註：其實我不是很懂為啥交易SF3會影響到簽Lewis ，因為交易SF3去尼克是05-06 但簽下他是07-08開季

11. Dwight Howard to the Los Angeles Lakers in 2012
魔獸降臨洛杉磯 -2012

Los Angeles receives: Dwight Howard, Earl Clark and Chris Duhon
Orlando receives: Arron Afflalo, Al Harrington, Christian Eyenga, Josh McRoberts, Maurice Harkless, Nikola Vucevic, a 2013 second-round pick, a 2014 first-round pick (via Denver or New York), a 2015 first-round pick (via Philadelphia), a 2015 second-round pick (via Lakers) and a 2017 first-round pick (via Lakers)
Philadelphia receives: Andrew Bynum
Denver receives: Andre Iguodala

四方交易中
湖人得到魔獸

魔術得到6位球員包含武切與14、15、17首輪跟2個次輪

76人得到拜能 （後續還有76認為拜能隱藏傷勢的爭議）

金塊得到小AI




Howard spent virtually an entire calendar year as the subject of trade talks before he was mercifully sent to Los Angeles in the summer of 2012.
Talk about a lose-lose-lose-lose. Howard and Iguodala left the Lakers and Nuggets, respectively, after one season, while Bynum never played a single game for Philadelphia, and only 26 more in his career. Orlando, on the other hand, got back a variety of draft picks -- plus future All-Star Vucevic, who became the anchor of the team for the next eight years.
But the Magic haven't made it past the first round of the playoffs since, and are now in the middle of another long-term rebuild, this time centered around this year's top overall pick, Paolo Banchero.

最終的結果大家都知道了 ，就是3輸1平

湖人一季之後失去了魔獸，還有Kobe的阿基里斯

金塊也沒能留住AI

76拿到不能上場的拜能

魔術看似拿到一票簽跟未來的主力，但實際上，在交易後他們一次季後賽都沒打過了






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通膨嚴重的重要原因是母隊能更長的控制自選球員

而規範頂薪也讓球員出現去豪門球隊反而領更少錢的例子

像現在來說，奧蘭多當初那些高能報紙絕對不會辦投票給俠客他想要的薪水是否值得

這也導致頂級球員幾乎沒有機會出現在FA

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→ Aggro       : 魔獸那筆真的是少數的大家都沒賺到4F 07/26 09:38
推 Endranoe    : 魔獸那筆真的....5F 07/26 09:39
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→ azlbf       : 少數有提到 像黃蜂（鵜鶘）的就變小河7F 07/26 09:41
推 Broyz       : AI 跟 槍西帶隊，其實都是輸給最後拿總冠軍那隊8F 07/26 09:42
推 LCHLCAP15   : 剩下的呢9F 07/26 09:46
推 lsps40803   : 1-10勒10F 07/26 09:47
→ azlbf       : 太多了 明天發QQ11F 07/26 09:48
推 ts012108    : 標題補一下啊（11-15） 不然等等被無照警察噓12F 07/26 09:52
推 xhakiboo    : QQ三人組現在看還是會笑出來是正常的嗎13F 07/26 09:53
推 JUFF831     : ESPN是不是忘記魔術在18-19、19-20都有晉級季後賽14F 07/26 09:54
→ JUFF831     : ，而且武切還是核心之一欸，雖然只有一輪遊。
推 Thebulun    : AI 甜瓜組團其實戰力不差啊我記得 印象中都很衰遇16F 07/26 09:55
→ Thebulun    : 到傷兵問題
→ NassirLittle: 籃網那筆超大包老人團沒有？18F 07/26 09:59
噓 ksk0516     : 第一勇士抱kd大腿吧19F 07/26 09:59
→ sicao       : 西"決"20F 07/26 10:01
→ Broyz       : AI甜瓜不差啊，但大家都只會拿槍西來比，但都不知道21F 07/26 10:02
→ Broyz       : 其實都是輸給該年的冠軍隊
推 onionandy   : 高能報紙www23F 07/26 10:05
噓 trayman     : 第一名就KD勇吧 被老詹打爆然後走捷徑組宇宙團帶起24F 07/26 10:12
→ trayman     : 組團歪風 聯盟最不要臉的決定
推 otwtsap1349 : KD不是簽約嗎 這篇是交易欸26F 07/26 10:20
→ swayoung    : KD去勇士又不是交易27F 07/26 10:20
推 reaman      : 帶起組團歪風？您說得對28F 07/26 10:21
推 Megacolon   : 可愛才14？租一年就拿總冠也沒賠上球隊未來，再想想29F 07/26 10:24
推 egghard29   : 魔術有進過季後賽吧30F 07/26 10:25
推 g27834618   : 組團歪風 先帶起來的那位還有臉講喔31F 07/26 10:28
→ reaman      : 16詹打爆，17,18巔峰姆斯被血洗2次32F 07/26 10:30
噓 Ommmmmmmmmm : 錯字一堆33F 07/26 10:31
→ reaman      : 21詹組75海衝擊西1134F 07/26 10:31
推 zyzzyvab    : 11錯誤Vucevic在魔術明明打過2次季後賽35F 07/26 10:36
推 blackxmas   : KD帶起組團歪風?不就仿效姆斯而已嗎36F 07/26 10:38
推 anomic24    : KD又不是藉由交易去抱腿的，要黑也看標題好嘛37F 07/26 10:39
推 wayne0120   : 魔術哪裡沒跟VV進過季後賽…雲記者嗎38F 07/26 10:41
→ Yofu        : 原來金塊獨鍾76人出品的AI 們39F 07/26 10:44
推 ivanyo      : 單拿AI跟槍西在金塊的陣容比，還有很大的差別是健康40F 07/26 10:46
→ ivanyo      : 的Nene和鳥人
噓 CHERRYCOLA  : 魔術前幾年才連2年進季後賽，這文在亂寫什麼？42F 07/26 10:53
推 sweetsmoke  : 15根本是早遇到還是晚遇到當年湖人....分析的狠差43F 07/26 10:56
噓 airandy1102 : basketball reason 講的就是組團啊44F 07/26 10:56
→ airandy1102 : 結果聯盟現在到處都是呵呵
噓 rbking21    : 原文沒錯 翻譯錯了 是沒突破第一輪46F 07/26 10:57
推 bluestaral  : 槍西跟AI，不談金塊，反過來看活塞這邊...就知道價47F 07/26 11:05
→ bluestaral  : 值了
→ bluestaral  : 活塞在槍西時代是連續六年東決，AI換掉槍西後變怎樣
→ bluestaral  : ....當年活塞迷應該印象深刻
噓 kilmmy149   : 魔術有進季後賽51F 07/26 11:14
推 beastlcc12  : 活塞那年戰力真這麼好那幹嘛換掉槍西 傻了？52F 07/26 11:17
噓 rongun      : 別牽拖AI啊 當時活塞迷捧的是屎大基 結果就沒結果了53F 07/26 11:22
推 Y225        : 覺得可愛要前五啊，交易後暴龍馬上奪冠54F 07/26 11:41
推 TCPai       : 活塞就衝不過東冠，Dumars 想變陣，然後活塞就爛了55F 07/26 11:43
噓 Broyz       : 活塞自問Stuckey養得如何，開心嗎56F 07/26 11:45
推 Wavecloud   : 竟然沒有自由球員抱腿組團 LBJ專長榜耶57F 07/26 11:46
推 STRO        : 還沒介紹完，急什麼58F 07/26 11:51
推 hisaken     : 可愛去暴龍應該前三吧！打工一年奪冠閃人！59F 07/26 11:57
→ EZ78        : 魔術有打季後賽啦 只是一輪遊 內文也是這樣寫的60F 07/26 12:05
推 Thebulun    : 記得AI去活塞也是水土不服 隊友好像都不是很喜歡他61F 07/26 12:08
→ Thebulun    :  不然鐵血防守陣是很適合AI的
→ Thebulun    : 但AI去活塞後自己也退化不少啦
→ Aggro       : 不過AI在金塊我記得之前有人幫他講過話 那幾年傷兵64F 07/26 12:10
→ Aggro       : 也有差
→ EZ78        : AI就是拒絕打無球迅速被聯盟淘汰的例子啊66F 07/26 12:11
→ EZ78        : Russ也很有可能走上同一條路
→ EZ78        : 那幾年就KMart勉族這幾個主要輪替一直輪流受傷好像
推 Thebulun    : 龜真的像AI晚年 沒人要但又堅持要打先發69F 07/26 12:15
推 yj80039     : 笑死 暴龍拿到可愛只排十四70F 07/26 12:19
→ EZ78        : 暴龍拿到可愛在那年冠軍賽結束就end了啊 影響沒有71F 07/26 12:20
→ EZ78        : 到非常深遠 跟其他人比起來的話
→ gundam01    : 可愛只用一年 是因為有拿冠才排的進來吧73F 07/26 12:22
→ Broyz       : 其實槍西的金塊也就是沒在前兩輪遇到馬刺湖人而已..74F 07/26 12:35
→ Broyz       : .不然結果都是倒在這兩隊手上，有差嗎
推 tomoti      : AI我記得是只願打先發才被淘汰的...76F 07/26 12:41
推 LITTLEYEA   : QQ 3人組也太好笑了，臉好囧77F 07/26 12:44
→ tomoti      : 不過他那時都33了,其實正常矮後衛存活到那也差不多78F 07/26 12:44
噓 UGround     : 內文寫魔術過不了一輪，翻譯變成沒季後賽，不是原文79F 07/26 12:45
→ UGround     : 記者的問題
推 chen2021    : KD簽勇士是FA吧 哪是交易81F 07/26 12:46
→ ottoj       : SF3換Penny的到期約，隔年空間就出來了啊82F 07/26 12:48
→ ottoj       : 原文是說後續交易走SF3後清出空間，不是魔術交易來A
→ ottoj       : riza和清出空間，兩個是不同動作。

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