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作者 Valverde (Valverde)
標題 [爆卦] 比蔡衍明更勁爆的王效蘭發言
時間 Thu Feb 23 00:41:41 2012




中時老闆蔡衍明之前華盛頓郵報專訪時,
曾作出「關於六四天安門事件的屠殺報導不是真的」、
「中國在許多地方是很民主的」、
「記者雖然有批評的自由,但是下筆前必須考慮後果」等言論,
引發言重反彈。

無獨有偶,聯合報系超高層王效蘭日接受金融時報訪問時,
也作出比蔡衍明更勁爆發言。

訪問新聞稿:Lunch with the FT: Shaw-Lan Wang
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/e51ded38-5706-11e1-be25-00144feabdc0.html
Lunch with the FT: Shaw-Lan Wang - FT.com
[圖]
Madame Wang enters the room at some velocity. The first thing I notice are her super-large eyebrows, arched like croquet hoops above her heavily made-up eyelids. Then I take in her fashionable haircut, short with a jagged fringe. Her hair is dyed ...
 


聯合報在19日有編譯該篇專訪:
http://udn.com/NEWS/NATIONAL/NAT5/6910024.shtml
金融時報專訪王效蘭/天生嗅覺 讓浪凡復活 | 綜合 | 國內要聞 | 聯合新聞網
[圖]
英國金融時報亞洲版主編皮林(David Pilling)日前專程來台北採訪聯合報發行人王效蘭女士,報導她如何使法國精品名牌浪凡(Lanvin)起死回生。 ...
 
金融時報專訪王效蘭 天生嗅覺

不過,聯合報的翻譯完全避重就輕,
只報導時尚品牌Lanvin的這部分,而沒翻出全文。


只要好好閱讀全文,內容真是無比勁爆啊。
像是:

She’s off on a tangent, telling a story about when
Jackie Chan annoyed the Taiwanese by suggesting that
Chinese people needed to be controlled and that
democracy in Taiwan was chaotic. “Jackie, he’s very
honest and straight. I called him and said, ‘You are
great. You have a very big market. If people here are
stupid, don’t come.’”

話鋒一轉,她提到成龍因為批判台灣民主惹惱台灣人時,
她說「成龍非常誠實、直率,我後來有打電話給他,
      讚他『你很偉大,你有很大的市場,
            若這裡的人愚蠢,就不要來了。』」

We talk about the recent thaw in relations between
Taiwan and mainland China. Although she is an
anti-communist and counts among her friends several
Tiananmen Square dissidents, she says the government
in Beijing has changed. “Now, I agree with what they
are doing. They are disciplined. Before you have the
law, don’t give too much freedom,” she says, wagging
her finger. “You have to teach people to respect the
law, even if the law is bad.”

我們談論最近兩岸關係的解凍,
王效蘭說北京已經在改變,
「我同意他們在做什麼(天安門鎮壓),他們有紀律,
  在有法律之前,不用給人太多自由。」
「你要教人尊重法律,即使是壞的。」

She continues on the China-Taiwan theme, saying it has
been more than 60 years since the two separated. But
unification is not so easy, she says, referring to the
strong sense of Taiwanese independence. “We Chinese all
have patience. Next generation, let’s see what that brings.
I think in China one day, if they have freedom of the press
and liberty of election, we can negotiate to become one
big China.


她繼續討論兩岸,她說兩岸分治逾六十年,統一不是這麼容易。
「我們中國人都有耐心,看看下一代會帶來什麼。
  若中國有一天可以選舉,給媒體自由,那可以來談判,
  我們可以成為偉大的中國。」

“We have no reason to hate each other. The Japanese
killed many, many Chinese and Asian people. Why don’t
the people hate the Japanese?” she asks, referring to
the relatively warm relations between the Taiwanese and
their former Japanese colonists. “War kills, but not
the way the Japanese kill. They use ... ”
here she mimes the stabbing action of a bayonet.
“They kill women and babies with their cruel methods.
People say forgive, but I say, ‘I cannot.’”

「我們(兩岸)沒理由互相仇視,
日本殺害許多中國人及亞洲人,為什麼沒人痛恨日本人?」
「人們說要原諒,但是我說『我不能』」


To this day, she says, she refuses to meet Japanese
people, notwithstanding the fact that she is currently
negotiating to buy back the Japanese licence to Lanvin,
previously sold to trading house Itochu. “It doesn’t
matter what title they have. If people say,
‘Madame Wang, this is such and such,’ I never give
my hand. I never say hello to Japanese.” She turns
her head disdainfully. “Bye bye. I don’t care what
they think.”

她說她拒絕與日本人接觸,
儘管她正在談判買回Lanvin的日本代理權。
「不管他們有什麼頭銜,只要有人介紹這是誰誰誰,
  我不會跟他們握手,也不會跟日本人說哈囉」
「掰掰,我才不在乎他們怎麼想!」

The waitress brings pear and papaya. I nervously broach
the subject of who should pay for this feast. Wang’s
assistant had warned previously that, under no circumstances,
would Madame Wang allow the FT to pay. I try anyway.
“I am meant to invite you,” I say timidly.
“The FT really does insist on paying.” The riposte is swift
and brutal. “Here in China, no. Never, never, never,”
she shrieks. “This is my domain. Even if you are Chinese,
you cannot pay.”

I figure it is useless. Besides, she is already wrapping up,
telling me that on no account am I to refer to her as a
Taiwanese businesswoman. “I don’t consider myself Tai-wan-ese,”
she says, drawing out the word. “I am Chinese. And I don’t
consider myself a businesswoman either,” she adds without
explanation. Then she softens. “It’s true, I am a woman.
That I cannot say anything about.”

最後,兩人為了誰該付錢產生爭執,
王尖叫說「這是我的地盤,即使你是中國人,也不該付錢。」
「我不認為我是台~灣~人」邊寫邊說「我是中國人!」

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ameko34:你看到的是許效順1F 02/23 00:42
plutox:被學者轟殺真的是活該2F 02/23 00:42
walife:台裔26籍,這種人一堆,尤其天龍國3F 02/23 00:43
kent:高級天龍人4F 02/23 00:43
freewash:高級天龍人 不意外5F 02/23 00:43
sukeda:忘記六四勿忘南京6F 02/23 00:43
chawer:我越看越擔心上面都是這樣子,只是沒說出來罷了....哀7F 02/23 00:44
chawer:然後哪天醒來就...
jodojeda:國民黨中常委之女9F 02/23 00:44
handsomeKim:高級外省天龍10F 02/23 00:45
chris9:不意外啊 他本來就是這樣11F 02/23 00:45
gygyggg:國軍、共軍都是中國軍12F 02/23 00:45
gt132328:支那人當初沒被殺光真可惜..到現在還是執迷不悟13F 02/23 00:45
chris9:他應該這輩子沒有一天認為自己是台灣人吧14F 02/23 00:45
lpboyboy:別人認為自己是什麼人   本省人又何必批判15F 02/23 00:47
mgok:請尊重689萬的選擇16F 02/23 00:49
bryantlee:那早點游過去,順便把聯合報也帶過去吧..17F 02/23 00:50
qazedc:效蘭阿姨 樓下可以18F 02/23 00:51
gygyggg:想當中國人就移民啊 賴在台灣不走還說自己不是台灣人19F 02/23 00:52
kent:聯合報跟中國時報都不意外 戒嚴時期享盡特權吃乾抹淨台灣20F 02/23 00:53
DRAWER:他們教養的下一代有些也是如此觀念21F 02/23 00:53
kent:在報禁的年代 只有這些人能辦報 當黨國傳聲筒鷹犬爪牙22F 02/23 00:54
jack8759:聯合報系在當年比中時更走狗23F 02/23 00:56
DRAWER:認識某位馬姓女演員的兒子 就說台灣很爛中國應該直接打過來24F 02/23 00:57
ss951357:好噁25F 02/23 00:58
lpboyboy:那豬油時報    不就是民粹黨的走狗   幹的事情都一樣阿26F 02/23 01:01
AboveTheRim:可惜Lanvin真的很屌    竟然被她買去27F 02/23 01:01
Victoriously:怪不得某報的記者水準愈來愈不怎麼樣28F 02/23 01:02
Aenyie:下去領五百塊吧29F 02/23 01:02
kent:聯合報社論:選宋楚瑜就是選蔡英文30F 02/23 01:02
takuminauki:聯合報本來就是主張民主統一...31F 02/23 01:04
lpboyboy:台獨也有台獨的走狗媒體    幹的一樣台獨思想的走狗行徑32F 02/23 01:04
Anderpiece:聯合報…早就只剩副刊和週二附的紐時能看33F 02/23 01:06
andy0526:噁~34F 02/23 01:09
laechan:問題是台灣媒體不會報這種新聞35F 02/23 01:09
heaven12:樓上你錯了,韋禎兄會在自由寫的,等著看吧。36F 02/23 01:10
jack8759:扯豬油的很可笑,林榮三有這種離譜發言貼一篇來看37F 02/23 01:18
DSB520:這英文... 好中國38F 02/23 01:19
NewReader:高級外省人 不意外39F 02/23 02:25
hiball:抵制拉命啊!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!40F 02/23 03:45
hiball:商人無祖國
shunchao:.............媒體亂源42F 02/23 06:26
linhsiuwei:旺報立場已經倒戈支持PRC對抗ROC,UDN目前還沒。43F 02/23 07:56
sayuki:XDDDDD44F 02/23 08:08
loveshih:.45F 02/23 08:17
eastpeak:滯台支那人46F 02/23 09:35
fromwilda:滾回去吧47F 02/23 09:38
lucifa38:426化妝成台灣人 無恥 我打死不再買聯合報了48F 02/23 10:39
kiliman:這篇明明應該虛的, 怎麼那麼多人推... ?49F 02/23 12:07
linlin168:支持她的言論自由,有趣的事為什麼不公開講呢?50F 02/23 12:39
linlin168:選舉的時候,聯合報該把老闆的訪談放上來呀?偷偷摸摸?
linlin168:不懂這些人,既然相信自己言論是正確的 何必講給老外聽
linlin168:像郝伯村那些人的想法,盡量公開講才對呀 不是很自豪?
sarada:同意樓上54F 02/23 16:52
Alimoe:看這老女人的言論他把台灣和中國分得很清楚啊,然後又自認是55F 02/23 17:12
Alimoe:中國人不是台灣人,那幹嘛還賴在台灣,快點搬去中國啊
Gato:僵屍臉57F 02/23 17:44
kvankam:你哪裏看到王效蘭? 那明明是樹妖姥姥58F 02/23 18:59
TaiBeiGuo:令人咋舌59F 02/23 19:01
fooioi:台灣有新聞自由才可以讓這種人大放厥詞 中國人沒這種權利60F 02/23 19:45
vios:這種人應該一直都有這種思想,為何當年沒被蔣中正抓起來?他61F 02/23 20:03
robeant:報禁的年代不能講政治,聯合報就是靠炒社會新聞起家的62F 02/23 21:08
bbbruce:支那人63F 02/23 21:16

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10樓 時間: 2012-02-24 23:37:35 (台灣)
  02-24 23:37 TW
在台灣吃香喝辣還不夠!看你回大陸有多好聞的屁可以聞!!!
11樓 時間: 2012-02-24 23:45:55 (台灣)
  02-24 23:45 TW
愛中國愛法國,台灣一點都不是。
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