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作者 標題 [外絮] 上籃高手
時間 Tue Sep 17 07:55:35 2013
The layup masters
上籃高手
Is being good at the layup as simple as getting to the rim?
There’s rarely a distinction made between a player’s ability
to get in layup range versus his ability to actually sink it.
Perhaps that’s because “a layup” is also a metaphor for
something easy, like a “gimme” putt in golf.
熟練上籃和打進籃下一樣簡單嗎?分別球員能打進籃框旁的能力和真正
能把球放進籃框的能力是少見的。可能是因為「上籃」是簡單的代名詞
,就像是高爾夫的「gimme(譯按:休閒高爾夫球賽時,球離洞口不遠就
直接算進洞,不用再推了的球)」。
能把球放進籃框的能力是少見的。可能是因為「上籃」是簡單的代名詞
,就像是高爾夫的「gimme(譯按:休閒高爾夫球賽時,球離洞口不遠就
直接算進洞,不用再推了的球)」。
Whoever popularized the metaphor probably never tried to score
over NBA giants, I’d hazard.
我大膽假設宣傳這個說法的人可能沒有嘗試在NBA的巨人們前上籃得分。
The layup also gets no respect because it doesn’t demand respect.
Unlike the dunk, the layup fails to seize an arena’s attention
with a sudden lightning bolt at the hoop. Instead, it takes an
indirect route off the backboard before meandering along the rim,
waffling on whether to finally be a basket already.
上籃也不受到尊重,因為它不需要被尊重。不像雷霆萬鈞的灌籃般,上籃
無法抓住球場的注意力。反而是用個經過籃板的曲折路徑,在成為計分板
上的分數前還在籃框上逗留。
無法抓住球場的注意力。反而是用個經過籃板的曲折路徑,在成為計分板
上的分數前還在籃框上逗留。
Incredible dunks look super intentional, as though a player’s
life depended on forcing the ball through the rim at that moment.
Incredible layups look accidental, as though a fouled Dwyane Wade
thought “Why not?” while flinging the ball in the backboard’s
general direction.
驚人的灌籃看起來是絕對蓄意的,如同球員在那一刻把生命都用在把球灌
進去般。而驚人的上籃看起來是充滿意外的,就像Dwyane Wade被犯規後往
籃板一拋時還想著「何不就唬爛一下?」。
進去般。而驚人的上籃看起來是充滿意外的,就像Dwyane Wade被犯規後往
籃板一拋時還想著「何不就唬爛一下?」。
So the layup commutes between “you’re open and should always
make it” and “you weren’t looking at the rim, that was total
luck.” It’s hard to get recognition for being good at something
when both the routine and the spectacular are so easily dismissed.
所以上籃介於「你有空檔應該投進」和「你壓根都沒看籃框,唬爛進的」。
當基本功夫和精彩表現兩者都輕易的被忽略時,是很難認定一個人是否真正
擅長於上籃。
當基本功夫和精彩表現兩者都輕易的被忽略時,是很難認定一個人是否真正
擅長於上籃。
Well, no one is dismissing the mighty layup in these parts. The
shortest bank shot is indeed a skill -- and an important one. Here
are some players who, according to Basketball-Reference.com, have
mastered the ancient art, along with some guys who could stand to
do better.
這個嘛~沒人會在這邊忽略偉大的上籃。最短距離的擦板得分絕對是個重要
的技巧。這邊是根據BBR整理出幾位熟練這個古老藝術的球員,同時也列出幾
位應該要增進此項技巧之球員。
的技巧。這邊是根據BBR整理出幾位熟練這個古老藝術的球員,同時也列出幾
位應該要增進此項技巧之球員。
THE BEST
優質組
LeBron James
Made 70 percent of layups, attempted 357
在357次上籃出手中命中70%。
When LeBron stole Game 1 from Indiana with an off-hand layup,
there was far less marveling at his steely reserve than there
was criticism of Frank Vogel for letting it happen.
當Lebron用非慣用手上籃將G1勝利從溜馬隊手中偷走時,對於他鋼鐵般轉身
的驚嘆聲遠少於對讓這件事發生的Frank Vogel(譯按:溜馬總教練)的批
評聲。
的驚嘆聲遠少於對讓這件事發生的Frank Vogel(譯按:溜馬總教練)的批
評聲。
An open layup is a high percentage shot for anyone, but it says
something that LeBron is comfortable with his off hand in a high-
pressure moment like that. His ambidexterity is the foundation of
his short-range arsenal.
對任何人來說空檔上籃是個高命中率的出手,但這透露出Lebron在關鍵時刻
能舒服的用非慣用手出手。靈活的雙手是他近距離進攻武器的基礎。
Not only is LeBron better at getting to the rim than everyone else
but he might be more accurate once there than everyone else, as
well. Last season, LeBron shot 70 percent on layups. He attempted
at least 200 layups more than anyone with a better layup conversion
rate.
LeBron不單單比任何人都會切入籃下,同時比任何人都更能在籃下將球準確
放進。上季,LeBron上籃命中率是70%。他比別人至少多200次上籃出手同時
有更佳的進球率。
放進。上季,LeBron上籃命中率是70%。他比別人至少多200次上籃出手同時
有更佳的進球率。
The aforementioned ambidexterity allows LeBron to explore any angle
at any time. A favorite tactic of his is to shield the defender
with his back while banking a no-look lefty. It’s a bit like a
reverse lay-in that doesn’t finish on the other side of the hoop.
上述的靈活雙手讓LeBron在任何時間任何角度都能出手。一個他喜愛的戰術
便是利用他的背檔開防守者,然後來個不看籃框的左手擦板。這就有點像是
個同邊的反手上籃。
便是利用他的背檔開防守者,然後來個不看籃框的左手擦板。這就有點像是
個同邊的反手上籃。
Isaiah Thomas
Made 67 percent of layups, attempted 151
在151次上籃出手中命中67%。
Pound-for-pound (Copyright: Allen Iverson) the best layupper
around. At a tiny 5-9 in socks, Thomas shouldn’t be able to hit
67.1 percent on these shots. He has had a lifetime of practice
against taller players, though.
換算成一樣等級(專利:Allen Iverson)來比較最佳的上籃好手。非裸腳
量僅五呎九吋的Thomas照理不該有67.1%的上籃命中。他肯定花了一輩子時
間來練習如何面對高個。
量僅五呎九吋的Thomas照理不該有67.1%的上籃命中。他肯定花了一輩子時
間來練習如何面對高個。
Thomas hasn’t mastered any one thing in particular. He just has
the full layup repertoire. He’ll switch hands when it suits him.
He’ll loft it high off the glass like Steve Nash. He’ll shield
off contact with his back while scooping the ball forward. He has
the up-and-under down.
Thomas並沒有精通其他特別的技巧,他單純擁有全套上籃技能。他在應該的
時候會換手上籃、他可以像Steve Nash一樣高擦板上籃、他能用背來阻擋火
鍋並同時向前拋球、他也會假投真切。
時候會換手上籃、他可以像Steve Nash一樣高擦板上籃、他能用背來阻擋火
鍋並同時向前拋球、他也會假投真切。
Seriously, watch this guy at the rim. Better yet, record this guy
at the rim, pause right before the layup happens and appreciate
how impossible the feat looks. Water can’t find a way through
cracks the way a Thomas layup can.
認真的說,來看這傢伙上籃,甚至能錄下來更好,並在上籃發生前暫停,好
好欣賞他的十八般武藝。Thomas的上籃比起流水穿石還來的刁鑽。
Tony Parker
Made 67 percent of layups, attempted 331
在331次上籃出手中命中67%。
This is the defining Parker trait and always has been. There’s
also a striking quirk to his game. Although Parker can use his
left hand if the situation requires, he prefers to use his right,
even on the left side of the backboard. I’d say the signature
Tony layup is a right-handed scoop on the left side of the rim.
That is, if the signature Tony layup isn’t an overhand try in
which he’s leaning backward on an invisible recliner.
上籃一直是Parker決定性的特質。同時在比賽中他也有個怪癖。雖然在需
要的時候Parker能用左手上籃,但他更喜歡用右手,即使他在籃板左側也
是如此。我會說Tony的招牌上籃是籃框左側的右手拋投,但更精確說,他
的招牌上籃是靠著隱形人的過肩上籃。
要的時候Parker能用左手上籃,但他更喜歡用右手,即使他在籃板左側也
是如此。我會說Tony的招牌上籃是籃框左側的右手拋投,但更精確說,他
的招牌上籃是靠著隱形人的過肩上籃。
Marcus Thornton
Made 70 percent of layups, attempted 156
在156次上籃出手中命中70%。
Look, I’d be lying if I said I could fully explain Thornton’s
layup skill, but he’s been great two years running (69.3 percent
on layups last season). He isn’t especially fluid with his moves,
but he’s good with either hand. Thornton also doesn’t force
anything around the rim. Most of his lay-ins come off assists.
若說我能完全解釋Thornton的上籃技巧那我就是在騙人,但他兩年來上籃
都很棒(上季的上籃有69.3%命中率)。他的動作並不特別流暢,但雙手都
很靈巧。同時Thornton在籃下時並不會強求,多數的上籃進球都來自於別人
助攻。
都很棒(上季的上籃有69.3%命中率)。他的動作並不特別流暢,但雙手都
很靈巧。同時Thornton在籃下時並不會強求,多數的上籃進球都來自於別人
助攻。
THE WORST
劣質組
Brandon Jennings
Made 50 percent of layups, attempted 281
在281次上籃出手中命中50%。
Kevin Costner’s “back, and to the left” line creeps into my
head whenever Jennings drives. Detroit’s new starting point
guard has a tendency to lean backward off balance while flinging
lefty prayers. Hopefully Jennings learned something from former
teammate Beno Udrih, who shoots contested layups quite well.
當Jennings切入時,Kevin Costner的名句「向後,然後往左靠」(譯按:
電影誰殺了甘迺迪的名句)不斷的在我腦中浮現。底特律活塞隊的新先發
控衛用左手亂拋時有向後不平衡傾斜的習慣。希望Jennings向前隊友Beno
Udrih學些東西,因為Beno的非空檔上籃頗優秀。
電影誰殺了甘迺迪的名句)不斷的在我腦中浮現。底特律活塞隊的新先發
控衛用左手亂拋時有向後不平衡傾斜的習慣。希望Jennings向前隊友Beno
Udrih學些東西,因為Beno的非空檔上籃頗優秀。
Carmelo Anthony
Made 50 percent of layups, attempted 335
在335次上籃出手中命中50%。
He’s even worse at contested layups when you consider how often
he’s rebounding his misses for easy putbacks. But those putbacks
might answer the question of why Anthony is so mediocre near the
basket. Melo loves chasing his own shot, and the first try might
be a careless prelude to the chase. He’s also not especially adept
at using his left hand and thus forces a lot of action with his
right.
當你考慮到他多常投丟一些輕鬆的補籃又自投自搶,就知道他對於非空檔上
籃的把握度更差。而這些補籃就是Anthony在籃框附近能力多麼普通的答案。
Melo喜歡衝搶自己投出去的球,而第一投可能就是為了衝搶隨意出手。他也
不是很習慣使用他的左手,所以常常用右手勉強出手。
籃的把握度更差。而這些補籃就是Anthony在籃框附近能力多麼普通的答案。
Melo喜歡衝搶自己投出去的球,而第一投可能就是為了衝搶隨意出手。他也
不是很習慣使用他的左手,所以常常用右手勉強出手。
Dion Waiters
Made 50 percent of layups, attempted 245
在245次上籃出手中命中50%。
He’s the right-handed Jennings, although there’s more hope for
Waiters going forward, I’d say. He’s stronger than Jennings
(eventually my “Strongta Ellis” nickname will get off the ground,
I just know it), taller than Jennings and younger than Jennings.
I’m banking (OK, I’ll stop) on an improved Waiters near the rim.
他是右手版Jennings,雖然我認為他更有希望進步。他比Jennings來的強壯
(我剛得知我稱呼他「Strongta Ellis」這個綽號將會正式啟用(譯按:此綽
號改編於Monta Ellis這個名字,表示是更強壯的Ellis))、比他來的高也比
他更年輕。所以我賭Waiters上籃技巧將會進步。
(我剛得知我稱呼他「Strongta Ellis」這個綽號將會正式啟用(譯按:此綽
號改編於Monta Ellis這個名字,表示是更強壯的Ellis))、比他來的高也比
他更年輕。所以我賭Waiters上籃技巧將會進步。
Ramon Sessions
Made 49 percent of layups, attempted 290
在290次上籃出手中命中46%。
Sessions was among the worst perimeter player on layups last
season, but he hasn’t been this bad in the past. Last season
could be a fluke -- or the result of a once-quick point guard
slowing down. I’ve noticed he tends to go right when the path
is blocked off.
上季Sessions是外線球員中上籃表現最差的球員之一,但他以前並沒有這麼
糟。所以上一季可能只是個意外,或是一個速度型控衛慢下來的結果。我發
現即使路線被擋住了,他還是習慣右邊切入。
糟。所以上一季可能只是個意外,或是一個速度型控衛慢下來的結果。我發
現即使路線被擋住了,他還是習慣右邊切入。
Omer Asik
Made 48 percent of layups, attempted 145
在145次上籃出手中命中48%。
I stayed away from listing big men because so many of their
“layups” are really post moves or strained putbacks, but Asik
deserves a mention. He converted 94.6 percent of his dunks, nearly
47 better than he managed on layups. From 3-10 feet, he shot
27.4 percent.
我盡量把大個子從這份名單排除掉,因為他們多數的「上籃」其實是低位單
打和被影響的補籃,不過Asik值得一提。他灌籃成功率高達94.6%,優於他的
上籃能力多達47%。在三到十呎的投籃中,他只有27.4%命中率。
打和被影響的補籃,不過Asik值得一提。他灌籃成功率高達94.6%,優於他的
上籃能力多達47%。在三到十呎的投籃中,他只有27.4%命中率。
Few players better demonstrate the difference between grip and
other kinds of fine motor skills. Asik is good at dunking; he has
no issue putting his clamps on the rock and tomahawking it through
the hoop. Once his hands try a more delicate layup, though, the ball
flies off the window as if Asik’s playing handball.
很少有球員能像Asik一樣充分顯示了抓緊球灌籃和其他技巧的是有很大不同
的。Asik是個灌籃高手;對於將球牢牢抓緊砸向籃框他一點問題也沒有。但
當他手要作出較為精細的上籃動作時,球就往籃板奶油掉,像是他在打手球
一樣。
的。Asik是個灌籃高手;對於將球牢牢抓緊砸向籃框他一點問題也沒有。但
當他手要作出較為精細的上籃動作時,球就往籃板奶油掉,像是他在打手球
一樣。
Ricky Rubio
Made 45 percent of layups, attempted 164
在164次上籃出手中命中45%。
I don’t want to judge too harshly, as Rubio was coming back from
an ACL tear. This is his second season of poor finishing, though
(48.4 percent on layups in his rookie year). It’s curious that
Rubio struggles like this because he’s so well coordinated and
so well aware of angles when it comes to passing. Perhaps the
problem is his running balance. On drives, Rubio often staggers
as if he’s in an invisible potato sack race.
因為Rubio才從前十字韌帶撕裂傷後復出,我並不想對他太嚴苛。不過這也是
他第二季上籃表現不佳了(新人球季上籃命中率48.4%)。Rubio上籃攻力這
麼差著實令人匪解,畢竟他無論面對各種角度的傳球都是如此精湛。或許問
題在於他跑步時的平衡。在切入時,Rubio常常步履蹣跚像在跑麻袋跑步比賽
(譯按:下半身套著馬鈴薯袋的跑步競賽)。
他第二季上籃表現不佳了(新人球季上籃命中率48.4%)。Rubio上籃攻力這
麼差著實令人匪解,畢竟他無論面對各種角度的傳球都是如此精湛。或許問
題在於他跑步時的平衡。在切入時,Rubio常常步履蹣跚像在跑麻袋跑步比賽
(譯按:下半身套著馬鈴薯袋的跑步競賽)。
IN THE MIDDLE
中庸組
Russell Westbrook
Made 58 percent of layups, attempted 478
在478次上籃出手中命中58%。
Westbrook might be the player whose facility at making layups
simply means he gets to the rim a bunch. That’s not entirely
fair, though, because Westbrook can and does finish with either
hand.
Westbrook是個熟練的上籃者,簡單來說是他切進籃下次數實在太多。不過這
樣說並不完全公平,畢竟他的確雙手都可以上籃。
You just wouldn’t expect the dynamic point guard to be a whole
12 percent worse on layups than LeBron, given Westbrook’s elite
speed and hops. It appears, from the video clips, as if Westbrook
flies into the lane with more desire than strategy, willing the
ball toward what might be the hoop. That’s nitpicking because,
even if Westbrook is only OK at converting layup attempts, it
matters more that he is creating so many of them.
由於Westbrook擁有頂尖的速度和跳躍力,你很難去想像這個爆發力十足的控
衛居然低於LeBron的上籃命中率多達12%。從影片來看,Westbrook像是腦充血
般衝進去籃下,將球送向可能是籃框的地方。但這只是吹毛求疵而已,就算他
的上籃命中率普普,他能創造一堆上籃機會更為重要。
衛居然低於LeBron的上籃命中率多達12%。從影片來看,Westbrook像是腦充血
般衝進去籃下,將球送向可能是籃框的地方。但這只是吹毛求疵而已,就算他
的上籃命中率普普,他能創造一堆上籃機會更為重要。
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推 :70%......出手還邀瘦多次 太神啦~~~1F 09/17 07:57
推 :LBJ應該是拉不下來吧 若以上籃手感的話我覺得TE很強2F 09/17 08:10
推 :去年的LBJ真是怪物中的怪物 各項命中率都超神@@3F 09/17 08:14
→ :二樓說的也是 防守LBJ第一線被過的話不是得分就是
→ :犯規了 或許這也可以解釋他那鬼神般的命中率
→ :二樓說的也是 防守LBJ第一線被過的話不是得分就是
→ :犯規了 或許這也可以解釋他那鬼神般的命中率
推 :LBJ快攻都是灌籃收尾,所以這個上藍命中真的挺噁心的6F 09/17 08:17
推 :看看今年有沒有機會突破75% XD7F 09/17 08:19
→ :KI的上籃比較神8F 09/17 08:21
→ :rubio的進攻…加油吧9F 09/17 08:26
推 :阿西在籃下的上籃竟然有那種命中率 太嚇人了..10F 09/17 08:27
→ :上籃風格各有特色,curry小人物 wade豪洨 ki老練11F 09/17 08:28
→ :用命中率評判不準,因為內線球員都靠身材
→ :上籃技巧好大都是後衛球員,尤其很多都左右開弓
→ :KI就是標準左右兩邊上籃都很強的
→ :用命中率評判不準,因為內線球員都靠身材
→ :上籃技巧好大都是後衛球員,尤其很多都左右開弓
→ :KI就是標準左右兩邊上籃都很強的
推 :Anthony上籃的目的是進攻籃板15F 09/17 08:32
推 :KI一定要換手 Rose一定要拉竿XD16F 09/17 08:33
推 :怎麼看都覺得阿喜最驚人.....lol17F 09/17 08:41
推 :但是進球拿兩分只看命中率不看技術啊18F 09/17 08:42
→ :LBJ去年其實罰球率好像是新人年後新低,否則命中率會19F 09/17 08:43
→ :更威吧
→ :更威吧
推 :LBJ21F 09/17 08:59
→ :除了阿西驚人的命中率外,西河上籃次數也很誇張22F 09/17 09:01
推 :Rose都是跳起來之後再找籃框的...23F 09/17 09:04
推 :MELO放槍..........24F 09/17 09:04
推 :果然有阿西 XDDD25F 09/17 09:05
推 :Rubio連上籃命中率都這麼慘 那到底還有甚麼命中率可26F 09/17 09:09
推 :Isaiah Thomas的上籃真的很爽,看起來超爽快27F 09/17 09:10
推 :原波給推嗎28F 09/17 09:21
推 :湯瑪士那個身材才叫做難能可貴...29F 09/17 09:34
→ :把籃框改成胯下的造型我想Rubio應該可以塞的超準吧30F 09/17 09:37
推 :魯小比的上籃...31F 09/17 09:41
推 :這篇完全不知所云....Isaiah和Thornton上籃出手數才32F 09/17 09:43
→ :多少....都不用考慮出手比例的嗎 那小王子才是最強
→ :多少....都不用考慮出手比例的嗎 那小王子才是最強
→ :冰人未提...34F 09/17 09:48
→ :這篇是以去年為基準阿 當然不會有冰人35F 09/17 09:49
推 :近幾年上籃王有幾個人選 D. Wade R. Westbrook36F 09/17 09:54
推 :T. Parker T. Evans M. Ellis
推 :T. Parker T. Evans M. Ellis
推 :被犯規會算出手?38F 09/17 10:03
→ :point/per lay up 感覺比較能反應
→ :point/per lay up 感覺比較能反應
推 :LBJ新人年後的連續4年罰球比今年還低唷40F 09/17 10:16
推 :翻譯推41F 09/17 10:17
→ :進攻手段很多的劣質組42F 09/17 10:22
推 :上籃也有分很多種啊,像高擦板.拋籃.換手上籃,拉桿~43F 09/17 11:04
→ :NBA小個子為了躲長人的封蓋練出的上籃技巧,超困難的
→ :NBA小個子為了躲長人的封蓋練出的上籃技巧,超困難的
推 :Parker的上籃的確也是一絕45F 09/17 11:10
→ :西河絕對不會是上籃王人選 KI還比他合適46F 09/17 11:32
推 :西河命中率可是比KI高哦47F 09/17 11:38
推 :現役上籃前二 TP LBJ 其他人只能搶老三48F 09/17 11:45
推 :TP真的是各種上籃的姿勢49F 09/17 11:58
噓 :50F 09/17 12:20
推 :好文51F 09/17 12:25
→ :西河生涯近籃框命中率是56.8% KI是59.8%52F 09/17 13:47
→ :更別說西河灌籃比KI更多 別說灌籃命中率比上籃低
→ :更別說西河灌籃比KI更多 別說灌籃命中率比上籃低
推 :考量身高體型,上籃王絕對是選跑車第一54F 09/17 13:55
推 :best應該要有CP355F 09/17 14:06
推 :靈活的雙手 吱吱56F 09/17 14:52
推 :TP是我心中的第一名57F 09/17 14:56
推 :RBC54321兄,我要說的是平均罰球數而非命中率 :)58F 09/17 15:28
→ :LBJ這兩年很多上籃被犯規破壞裁判都不響哨,否則命中
→ :率會比70%還驚人
→ :LBJ這兩年很多上籃被犯規破壞裁判都不響哨,否則命中
→ :率會比70%還驚人
推 :竟然沒提到手套61F 09/17 16:08
→ :不過這名單是現役的樣子 把偽笑湯看成真笑湯 = =
→ :現役的話應該加入Evans才對 希望離開國王後有好發展
→ :不過這名單是現役的樣子 把偽笑湯看成真笑湯 = =
→ :現役的話應該加入Evans才對 希望離開國王後有好發展
推 :看到這篇我也以為會有上籃王EVNAS64F 09/17 16:22
→ :*evans*
→ :*evans*
推 :Tyreke Evans的命中率和這幾位相比不夠高66F 09/17 16:31
推 :奶油手上籃球會滑掉67F 09/17 16:43
推 :要加上出手數才比較不會失真 這裡面有幾個出手數很低68F 09/17 17:31
→ :其實"上籃出手"有150次以上就算不少了69F 09/17 18:34
→ :因為作者在文章中比較基礎是把上籃部分拉出來討論
→ :因為作者在文章中比較基礎是把上籃部分拉出來討論
推 :實在是由於那兩位次數多得太誇張了XDD71F 09/17 19:41
推 :idiotsmart大這篇先借我轉國王討論(有兩位國王球員)72F 09/17 22:04
→ :如果不行來信給我我會刪除 謝謝你的翻譯好文
※ Cousins15:轉錄至看板 Kings 09/17 22:05→ :如果不行來信給我我會刪除 謝謝你的翻譯好文
→ :哈沒問題 歡迎歡迎74F 09/17 22:35
推 :Asik的數據真的很誇張XD,如果考慮到他的身高(差不75F 09/17 22:38
→ :多只要輕輕跳起來放球就好),那就更驚人了。
※ Paraguay:轉錄至看板 LeBronJames 09/18 02:27→ :多只要輕輕跳起來放球就好),那就更驚人了。
推 :LBJ都輾過去的...當然阿~~~~77F 09/23 13:51
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