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作者 kning0926 (KNING貓餃)
標題 [閒聊] 來說說高文跟蘭斯單挑前的對話(欸
時間 Sun Mar 26 23:04:37 2017


大家好,我是抽不夠努力所以高文還沒回家的貓餃
上次(被我安利的)仰觀提到高文性轉的故事
實際上有幾本書的解釋覺得:Gawain acts like a woman.
尤其是在「高文與綠騎士」裡

甚至我剛還菇狗到一句
The knight insulted is always one of  exceptional ability.
This episode is made unusually comic by the unique,humanizing reference
to Gawain's height and his sensitivity about it and by the old damsel's
 apparent fear of r●pe.
我的英文很糟
大概意思是在某個篇章裡用滑稽的方式諷刺了高文的身高,
高文對此很敏感並且像個少女一樣害怕被強(欸,本板是普遍級

um...總之進入今天的開場防雷,出自 Lancelot-Grail 這本書
(我確定以下是普遍級,用高文跟r_pe去菇狗會發現綠騎士才是RY)



蘭斯洛特又失蹤了,王妃跟蘭斯的親戚很擔心
But of all those who were not Lancelot's kin,it weighed most upon Sir
Gawain,for he was the man who most loved Lancelot in all the world, apart
from King Arthur and Lancelot's kinsmen.
但除了蘭斯的親戚以外,最擔心得肯定是高文爵士,是這世界上除了亞瑟王和
蘭斯親戚以外最愛蘭斯洛特的人。

he often said privately that he did not know which one he loved more,
Sir Gawain or Lancelot
亞瑟王私下表示不知道自己更愛哪個,高文或是蘭斯洛特



所以我說那個王妃到底......




在高文試圖阻止亞瑟王處刑王妃並且婉拒到刑場看守,高文弟弟們代替高文到場,
並且沒有武裝以表示支持蘭斯洛特(劫走王妃)
結果蘭斯一行人誤殺高文弟弟和高文兒子之後,高文要求亞瑟王出兵
(在高文幫蘭斯隱瞞王跟出兵的對話覺得也很萌^q^ 高文跟王的信任危機(題外話

高文派了人給蘭斯傳訊要求單挑
When Lancelot heard what the messenger told him, he became angry at the news,
for he had no desrie to do battle with Gawain.
當蘭斯洛特收到這個訊息,蘭斯感到生氣,他並不想跟高文戰鬥

He answered"To be sure,my friend, this messege displease me greatly, for never
in my life would I ever want to see Sir Gawain in battle,
because he's a noble man and because he has been a good companion to me
since I first became a knight."
"tell him what I've said; tell him that I said it not out of any fear I have
of him, but because I loved him so much that I wouldn't like meet him in singl
e
大略說:
我有生之年一點都不想跟高文打,因為他是高貴的人而且他從我成為騎士
以來一直陪伴著我
告訴他我說的,我不怕他,但因為我愛他所以不想跟他單挑。


然後身邊的Bors和King Lionel聊了一段高文的訊息,蘭斯說
I couldn't kill him for anything in the world;for he seems to me too valiant,
and he is the one man,out of all those in the world who have been dear to me,
whom I've loved most and still love most,with the single exception of king.
如果蘭斯贏了決鬥必須砍高文的頭
「我不會為了任何理由殺他,他對我太重要了,他是世界上曾對我最親的人,
也是過去和現在我最愛的人,除了王以外」
(我覺得那個王以外看看後面蘭斯表現就覺得蘭斯像在說謊RY)


Sir Bors: How remarkable that you love him generously, when he hates you
mortally.
很明顯的你這樣包容的愛著他,即使他如此恨你

Lancelot said:
You'll see just how remarkable it is:He couldn't possibly hate me so much
that I'd stop loving him.
And I wouldn't have said that so directly.
蘭斯:不論他多恨我都無法阻止我愛他。通常我不會說的這麼直接。



然後那個少年回去傳話之後,當然高文堅持要打
Lancelot was saying that he was very unhappy at the impending battle and that
he would rather fight against any two knights in the army than against Sir
Gawain,because he loved him very much.

蘭斯非常不開心,他寧可跟兩個騎士對打也不想跟高文打,因為他很愛高文。


先上一下蘭斯的親戚吐槽


Hector: you can be sure that, if he didn't love Sir Gawain , he wouldn't have
done it,because he didn't really need to.
赫克托:你可以確定,如果他不愛高文,他跟本不需要做這些事。

King Bors:I don't know what he'll want to do,but as for me,I'll give anything
in the world, if I had it ,to be fighting Sir Gawain;I assure you it would be
all over by now
波爾斯王:我不知道為什麼他要這麼做,但如果是我,我會給他任何我有的東西
不跟高文打;這樣的話肯定現在就結束了。
(白話:高文要你做什麼你就去做啊蘭斯洛特)


Lancelot:and so that I may make whatever amends you might ask of me,I beg
you:let's stop this battle.
Gawain:You can rest assured that one of us will die on the field.
蘭斯:你要我改什麼我都願意改,我求你:我們不要再打了。
高文:你可以放心我們之中一定有一個會死在這裡

(回~不~去~的~愛~情~)


當Hector看到蘭斯回來說 你怎麼可以就這樣放過他 回去砍了他的頭你就結束這場戰爭了
Lancelot:
oh! Dear my brother! What are you saying? God help me,I'd rather have a
spear though my body than kill such a valiant man
蘭斯:天啊你在說什麼!願上帝保佑我寧可刺自己一槍也不會殺了那樣重要的人

Hector:He would have killed you if he could have.Why don't you do the same to
him?
赫克托:他如果有機會一定會殺了你,為什麼你不這樣對他?

Lancelot:l wouldn't do that.Because my heart,which guides me,would never
permit it.
蘭斯洛特:我不會這樣做。我的心會譴責我,這種事永遠不會被允許



呃,我跳過了很多蘭斯跟高文一來一往的傳話(墨鏡
那對話看起來就是蘭斯哭著求高文原諒,高文怎樣都不聽,亞瑟王也勸不了
(蘭斯真的有哭)



當開始準備挑著翻譯的時後發現蘭斯說了一大堆告白的話
好幾頁然後我就想放棄了。

--
Merlin:
Launcelot with this sword shall slay the man
that in the world he loved best, that shall be Sir Gawaine.

——Sir Thomas Malory, La Morte d’Arthur, Book II Chapter XIX

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kning0926: 所以高文真的不是女孩子嘛1F 03/26 23:07
kid725: 都是這系列文害我昨天晚上夢到蘭斯x高文2F 03/26 23:07
QQkoalakids: 樓上ww3F 03/26 23:08
blackone979: 只好寫信給蘑菇要他寫一個舊劍世界線的性轉高文4F 03/26 23:08
ylmarten: 我就說那個金髮碧眼巨乳的年上白衣女騎士(ry5F 03/26 23:09
kning0926: 高文比蘭斯年紀大 還是前上司^q^6F 03/26 23:10
QQkoalakids: 抄書抄錯 部分關妮薇=高文等等有可能呢 英文許多字源7F 03/26 23:11
QQkoalakids: 也是抄錯才產生新字
kid725: 不過我夢中的蘭斯比FGO中的帥多了 果然有補正9F 03/26 23:11
kning0926: 法文的高文拼法:Gauvain  我剛就一直看成關妮薇10F 03/26 23:12
ylmarten: 關妮薇無誤啊(被拖出去11F 03/26 23:12
FubukiEva: 好閃www12F 03/26 23:14
a1234555: 我覺得亞瑟王傳奇本就是歌頌愛情 至上,甚至有一點不惜13F 03/26 23:18
a1234555: 打破體制的味道在 。所以感覺有很多禁忌愛戀的隱喻在裡
a1234555: 面
kning0926: 蘭斯洛特的故事是模仿崔斯坦的16F 03/26 23:19
kning0926: 高文與綠騎士 就是完全充滿各種性暗示(明示)
※ 編輯: kning0926 (36.236.238.107), 03/26/2017 23:23:39
reiraku: 有沒有高文和桂妮薇是同字不同性別的可能18F 03/26 23:31
kning0926: 我們上一篇妄想過了(?19F 03/26 23:31
fiction4569: 別性轉了,直接加背景設定就好(X20F 03/26 23:36
ylmarten: 這幾年同時有兩種性別的設定也是滿流行(被拖走21F 03/26 23:37
dderfken: 人總是在做著相同的事22F 03/26 23:39
reiraku: 呆毛&亞瑟:(笑23F 03/26 23:39
kning0926: 高文跟蘭斯單挑的時候亞瑟王是在場的,下次想到再談24F 03/26 23:49
llabc1000: 我開始覺得高文才是歷史上真正的女性假裝成男性騎士25F 03/27 00:44
ithil1: 亞瑟王說願意和蘭斯分享老婆以外的任何東西,高文馬上接26F 03/27 00:47
ithil1: 說他願意變成處女以求陪在蘭斯身邊。這怎麼看都像高文才是
ithil1: 亞瑟的(ry
kning0926: 是我我也想娶高文啊!!!29F 03/27 00:48
ylmarten: 然而我比較想效法瑞格維爾小姐30F 03/27 00:49
kning0926: 奧克尼家長子,溫柔體貼,長的好看還是亞瑟王位第一繼31F 03/27 00:49
kning0926: 承人
kning0926: 高文這麼可愛 http://i.imgur.com/K0rRTY0.jpg
[圖]
 
mkai: 那個簽名檔是La morte d’Arthur,不是le morte喔~34F 03/27 02:06
※ 編輯: kning0926 (36.236.238.107), 03/27/2017 02:17:51
ando: 其實我覺得性轉與否已經不重要了....35F 03/27 11:46
lbowlbow: 180公分的女孩子好像有點猛36F 03/27 12:04
willytp97121: 以前的腐作家們到底…37F 03/27 14:09
rs232c: 我漸漸的覺得蘭斯X高文越來越棒了(誒38F 03/27 21:47
lbowlbow: 真相:其實亞瑟的王妃就是高文,蘭斯是跟亞瑟搶老婆才被39F 03/28 13:46
lbowlbow: 追殺的(咦)

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